contemplating fitting a sidecar to the Dubya anyone have any experiences they d...


contemplating fitting a sidecar to the Dubya, anyone have any experiences they'd want to share please?

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  • Well, I gave a reaction in the W800 group, I thought FB "ate" it all, and redone it now :-/ I 'ld better go to sleep now :-)

    And Richard, that 'll be a beauty as well :-)

  • Much of the frame is fabricated, still thinking about a sub frame, or not. will try and post some pics later in the week.

  • thanks guys, yes Kip like your work, thinking of a Cosy or one of the Indian knockoff's. I have already upgraded the front brake line, generally ride on poor winding country roads but want to tour a little further afield and thinking the outfit could hold a bit of 'stuff'. I can upgrade the shocks and springs with local Icon units just a little confused on how the sidecar brake works, the law says it needs a park brake but was unaware there were other braking systems available?

  • A Cosy (= Inder in Europe) is pretty light and therefore has no brake as standard. Now maybe I am prejudiced about that extra brake, each to their own I 'ld say, but you could always add a brake later I suppose?

    I don't know anyone who has a Cozy/Inder, so I couldn't tell about their handling. Most important are the frame and connections off course.

    I would say you 'ld better get in and out of the coffin (Rocket or Euro?) a couple of times to check if it is comfortable. I first looked at a Blackpearl (very light, no brake) but dismissed that as it is not friendly at the knees to get in/out. I kind of liked the Inder Euro, but at last chose a Velorex 562...

    As for the parking brake, is a Grip-Lock approved for that? I use a padlock on the sidecar brake lever as parking brake and anti-theft device :-)

    I believe Oigy had an extra pedal at the left foot to operate the third brake. My Widecar has an extra lever that is pushed down when I operate the rear brake pedal, but this would be very difficult for a left hand sidecar :-/ A third brake is not a must, but I would recommend it, as I do mostly ride in suburban traffic...

  • Do it and be prepared for much enjoyment quite unlike that experienced by the rider of a solo. In my experience sidecarists see the world in a signicantly different way from the majority, to each of whom the experience shall remain utterly incomprehensible.

  • You'll have to forget everything you know about bikes, only remembering the position of the controls is a plus. Smile. Instead of falling into a corner, you'll have to pull and push at the bars, and shift your ass while doing that. Smile. Accelerating, braking, whatever... it will all be different from how you thought it was. The major point of advice is: take your time, take it easy! Smile. Possibly get in touch with others (nearby if possible) who have a hack, to give you some real life lessons, ideas and advise. Don't be shy about this, they will gladly help you! Have a beer together. Lots of people will warn you, but don't let them scare you, just take the time you need. Smile. There is lots of info about hacks to be found on the net. Next, as Colin says, you will see the world in another perspective. Smile. Riding a sidecar is fun! People will smile when you ride by. Children will point and shout at you. You'll have to be prepared to wave at everybody. Smile. You 'll have to answer a lot of questions. You' ll love snow...

  • It is indeed another experience... And fun!

    Last spring, I stayed at a "motorcycle" hotel in Germany. It is in a beautiful region with curves and hills, many bikers come there for a ride. All 250 beds were occupied, by the evening they had to send people away. There was one other sidecar there when I arrived. Needless to say I immediately noticed it and parked next to it. Off course, the first person that said anything to me was that other sidecarist who had seen me coming... Somehow sidecarists all belong to that one special family. You know, the way it used to be when bikers were still one big family too, and always waved at eachother and so on... Yes, you may call me a nostalgic old fart, but I do enjoy it!

  • Kris, you are a nostalgic old fart.

  • Thanks! ;-)

  • Oigy's W650, copied it from "Kawasaki W800" (without asking his consent off course) :-)